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		<title>Greenbelt Reflections 1: Questioning Rob Bell?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to see many of the headliners at greenbelt this year. Athlete were great, Martyn Joseph with Stuart Anderson was brilliant and then there was Rob Bell. It is not at all that Rob was not good, he was, as expected, engaging, funny, full of compassion and very clear, but two things disturbed me. ]]></description>
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<p>I went to see many of the headliners at greenbelt this year. Athlete were great, Martyn Joseph with Stuart Anderson was brilliant and then there was Rob Bell.</p>
<p>It is not at all that Rob was not good, he was, as expected, engaging, funny, full of compassion and very clear, but two things disturbed me.  The first, which I guess I&#8217;ll have to live with, is the celebratory status that the crowd afford to this human being.  Ok, so Jesus had crowds too and I in fact participate in crowds as well; most notably at a U2 360 concert this summer.  So maybe I should just get over this.  The second disturbance, which I find sad that we are living with, was captured at the type of questions that the crowd asked this super-christian.</p>
<p>One of Rob&#8217;s hour long sessions was titled &#8216;In Conversation with Rob Bell&#8217; which was essentially an open Q&amp;A time.  Questioners were pulled from the crowd with easy questions, hard questions, funny and interesting questions etc. It seemed to me that the questions, while extremely difficult for the person involved, were of a very basic discipleship nature.</p>
<p>Now, on the one hand there is nothing basic about discipleship.  Re-orientating one&#8217;s life towards Christ and then following as a disciple is enormously energising and draining. &#8220;I have just met Jesus and now I wonder what I need to do in my life to follow?&#8221;  Such a question can and should have great impact on one&#8217;s life. What flows out of such a question is almost certainly a range of difficult decisions and situations.  If following Jesus were easy, then there might be more people in church and the world might be worse of for it.  However, the place for such difficult questions and life-giving support through such situations is amongst the community of believers, where the next basic theological questions gets asked. &#8220;We a community of believers, what does it mean to be the Body of Christ in this time and place?&#8221; How do we live faithfully and authentically together as disciples of Jesus.  As well as addressing internal matters of nurture and support of disciples and life together as community, it is this group and only this group that can begin to think about how to relate to those not yet part of them: &#8220;How do we as the community of disciples communicate the love of God to those who have not heard?&#8221; Yes of course individual disciples are at the coal-face of being in relationship with on-disciples, but they can only do so out of their community of believers: theologically, emotionally and practically.  This layering of theological questions, this &#8216;how do we talk about God&#8217; conversation, is, or at least should be it seems to me, at the heart of ecclesial theology; by which I mean church based theology.  So perhaps it is now easier to see my second disturbance in context.  How come these attendees at a Christian festival asking this super-Christian who has been flown in from the states basic discipleship questions?</p>
<p>Perhaps it is because they were just testing him out.  A whole group of festival attendants got together to form a list of questions which would essentially test out Rob Bell&#8217;s authenticity to be called a &#8216;speaker&#8217;!  If this is the case, I wonder whether he passed?  Perhaps those who asked questions were not in fact active members of a local community of believers and so in effect GB becomes their community and this is where you can ask the visiting preacher these type of questions.  I&#8217;m sure this is the case for a whole heap of people who attend GB.  They are either disaffected church-goers or never in fact went to church but found faith in the festival circuit and never made a connection with their local church.</p>
<p>Thirdly, and this is where this article has been leading up to, perhaps it is because these questions aren&#8217;t being answered in the local communities of believers, the local church.  The preaching and teaching in local churches is not up to addressing these discipleship questions or local preachers and teachers are not brave enough to address them.  Talking about non-believers who need converting strongly implies that we have it right and they have it wrong; talking about parents and partners who don&#8217;t believe who as a result face separation from God [assuming that we still have a lost and found theology], these are hard things and you can&#8217;t blame teachers and preachers for a little self-preservation.  However, these are the questions that our people are asking.</p>
<p>This second disturbance of mine does cause me sadness.  Not because we don&#8217;t have answers for these questions, or because it is so hard, but because I don&#8217;t think we talk about these questions enough.  There are no easy answers to these and other difficult situations but the best chance we have is to have an ongoing space within the community of believers of support, care, prayer, love and wisdom seeking.  Which we are probably not going to find in the hour session of a paratrooper preacher in a field a GB.</p>
<p>I was particular interested in listening to Rob Bell, primarily to here the questions he was asked rather than his answers, because I am convinced that on the whole we have a very low discipleship agenda in our churches.  By discipleship I mean just asking those type questions that I outlined above; what does it mean for me to become and be a follower of Jesus; as a community of believers how show we life our lives together and how do we as a community engage with those who have not heard?</p>


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